Thursday, January 12, 2012

Winning hearts and minds ...

Not*:

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has condemned a video that appears to show US Marines urinating on the bloodied corpses of several Taliban fighters.

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The footage shows four men in military fatigues appearing to urinate on three apparently lifeless men. They have brown skin, bare feet and are dressed in loose-fitting outfits. One appears to be covered in blood.

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Now, I really don't give much of a shit for violent right-wing theocrats but if we're there for the reasons we say we are (making Afghanistan into something more than a lawless patch of the 12th Century), this ain't gonna get it done. Idiots.

*Video at link.

5 comments:

BadTux said...

Thing is, this is of no (zero) import. We've already lost in Afghanistan. Everybody understands that except the politicians who sent the troops into Afghanistan. Crap, we lost the moment we sent more than a few platoons of Special Forces into Afghanistan, that's a landscape that has chewed up pretty much every invader that's ever dared it. This is the sort of shit that happens when a defeated military is bitterly nursing its wounds after being put into a no-win situation. I can't condone this sort of conduct, but I can understand why it's happening -- and that it doesn't make a damn bit of difference to the outcome.

-- Badtux the Reality-based Penguin

Fixer said...

This is the sort of shit that happens when a defeated military is bitterly nursing its wounds after being put into a no-win situation.

Exactly!

Gordon said...

Badtux is right: zero import. Pissing on a vanquished enemy is a "brutal act"? Gimme a fuckin' break.

We can not win the goat fuckers' hearts and minds. They know we're going to leave and they have to live with whomever comes next for the rest of their lives.

You wanta see "hearts and minds"? Wait 'til we leave. The Taliban know that when you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.

Same kinda shit as Vietnam. We never learn.

Gordon said...

This bullshit is on TV now. Lemme see if I'm getting this right - we train killers to go kill and then we get all upset because they piss on people they just killed? What the fuck do people think? It's OK to blow their asses to kingdom come but then our guys have to be NICE to the corpses?

Stupid, stupid shit. I hope nothing happens to those Jarheads but shit flows downhill.

And the 'talks' with the Taliban? "Will you be nice to the Afghans after we leave?" "Oh, suuuuure...help ya pack up?"

tom said...

Wife and I are life long LibDems
when I told her about this this am we both said so what.
We send people to war to kill other people, the OTHER people kill our people w/ IEDs so when we kill them back we are MAD, Afghanistan is a shithole (sorry to the folks who hope for a better day for Afghan women) their men are shits.
Don't want our folk pissing on their dead, but there are NO rules in war.
Best we can do is freaking LEAVE